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Is Courting a Lost Art?

Is Courting DeadBack in the day,  a man courted a woman with intents of marriage.   These days a girl is supposed to feel lucky if her suitor calls her back, shows up when he says he will, or actually shows some dedicated follow through.  It also seems that dating has become less and less original and we aren’t dating for marriage, but dating for buttcheeks.

Johns Hopkins University sociologist Andrew Cherlin defines traditional courtship: “a process where parents and others kept watch while young  people found a spouse. It had rules, steps carried out in view of everyone. It  meant sitting in a parlor and chatting with parents. In the 1950s, it was an  elaborate routine of going steady, getting pinned, getting engaged and then  going on to marriage. You might not have sex until then.”

“I think there is a growing recognition that  something has been missing over the last decade. Women especially are  increasingly fed up with the so-called ‘hook-up’ culture.

The Dates

1.  Random holler:  Woman is approached in some unoriginal fashion ala “Hey girl, you are sexy….or “Wassup girl, you gotta man.”  So, when a guy approaches, and strings together sentences and makes us laugh, we jump at the chance to take this man up on a offer at a first date. 

2. Date 1:  Some restauraunt, movie, or the like….where you don’t really have a chance to determine if dude is cool or not but you get the feeling he has no bodies in his freezer, didn’t sleep with your best friend, and doesn’t make you zone out and think of all the work you have on your desk.

3.  Date 2-3: More of the same unoriginal pattern dating…..YAAWWWN.

4.  Date 3-4:  Couch dating.  Somewhere you felt comfortable to go to his crib or have him come to yours.  Now …surprise surprise….you watch movies on the couch…and possibly get felt up!  Original ain’t it??

What happened to coming up with an original date?  – When did men stop trying to woo the woman, and when did the idea of a date become limited to a fancy dinner?  When did less become acceptable and when did women start settle for a lack of originality, zero follow through, and a general lack of respect for our feelings in dating?

Free Dates Are Hot! – What happened to picnics, plays, trips to the zoo, long walks, making some pottery, chillin’ at a local coffee house, art gallery exhibits, museums and etc.  I mean we are here to learn about you not that you can do the most at XYZ’s or that you hired an interior decorator….boooorrrring. 

Ladies it’s not all the man’s fault – I, like many of you, think that most of the responsibility for determining the tone of a new interaction is set by how the man views the woman or what they feel they can get.  Leon and Amy Krauss state  the following:

“Obstacles to lasting love that young people face include “the feminist movement, which for years disparaged women who put private happiness and family life ahead of career and self-advancement,” says Kass. He also cites the effects of declining morality: “Women complain now about the difficulty of getting men to commit. But they don’t see that it is the easy access of sexual pleasure that contributes to male irresponsibility.”

So the Single Ladies  movement and a lack of keeping it in your pants have killed Courtship and dating?  I don’t completely agree, while these factors, I believe they have played a large part in men doing the bare minimum to draw us in.  I feel as though since women all over are settling for a lack of originality, men know they don’t have to work hard to woo a woman.  When a woman starts demanding more or hinting that she wants more originality, men head for the hills.  Why work hard at what comes naturally?  Why commit to dating one person or why show your new interest any dating respect?  These things just make a woman “high maintenance” these days, not interesting, or accepting of the status quo. 

Instant Gratification Has Lowered Expectations Leading to Wack Dating – We live in a society filled with Veruca Salts…”We want it now!!!”  Instant gratification and laziness have made men and women a little slutty and less inclined to be original.  I think we all need to take a step back and wade a little bit in the 1950’s behavior, stop trying to impress each other and step outside the box.  If people took great spontaneous first dates where the mask is removed, we would all get a better idea of whether the new prospect is a lame duck or Prince(ss) Charming.   

Bottom Line

Men if you are gonna be heading up households….impress us with all that leading power and show us something new and think outside the box.

Ladies, keep it in your pants and  demand more than dinner and a move/move it on to the couch….suggest a little something new.   

Ideas?  Thoughts?

Men……what are your thoughts about the lack of courtship and how does it get fixed?

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  • hmmm
    exactly how do you get a dude to ask you out in the first place?

    i feel like the better looking a dude is and the more he has to offer, the less likely he is to make any effort - period - including even hollering in the first place.
  • MissA
    As ladies, we've forgotten the subtle art of non-verbal communication. It's in your eyes, your smile, and your body language whether he will deem you approachable, and willing to be "wooed" lol.

    We've got to stop acting like these dudes are gods that come around once every 1000 years. If you do your part to seem warm and inviting and he's too busy battling off tens of desperate, aggressive chicks to approach you, oh well. Move on. No point in trying to cultivate a relationship with a guy who views himself as a rare commodity and you as a completely dispensable.

    That's the real. The natural hook line and sinker of nonverbal flirting will often be enough to let a guy who *is* interested in you, know it's time for him to step up to the plate and make sh*t happen. The ones who think it's too much effort to even approach you (cuz they are already "flooded" with several much easier, readily available options) isn't the type you want anyway.
  • TBC
    Great post. I have been exploring this issue for a few weeks now to prepare for a future post. Your points are very valid and sharp; a lot can be learned from it, especially for readers who take the time to thoroughly consider the questions asked here. I certainly hope people internalize the point of view you expose and find ways to be more productive instead of the steady stream of whining and complaining that too many men have grown accustomed to relying upon.

    Great point on guys wanting to be the head of the household, but afraid to really be the head and take charge. Over half the problems listed above could be easily solved with more males accepting their responsibility as men in the seduction process.

    @Forealdude said:

    "The woman does not appreciate the effort, and thinks things are weird when a guy opens the door for them and then starts to complain that you should not strt off by doing this, if you ae not going to keep it up. This makes a man feel unappreciated in the situation, so once he gets the "buttcheeks" he is OUT, Who wants to deal with the stupid? Bottom line is you should try to get to know the person, in whatever way you can. Women be suggestive without being overpowering."

    This comment was so insanely backwards, I'm half expecting you to admit that work for The Onion website and was just writing that B.S. as a way to illicit laughs. It's hard for me to imagine a man so spineless that he has to ask females to stop being "overpowering"--where do you guys live; under what rock did your parents hide your manhood? Your problem isn't opening doors for women, your problem is that your system pumps estrogen in great quantities than it does testosterone--you are looking for "weaker" type women because you are such a "weak" man.

    What, you expect women to go "yessa massa" just because you hold open a door? That's the expectation of clowns. She doesn't owe you anything just because you perform traditional rituals that, in some circles, you are SUPPOSED to do, no matter what--respect for women don't stop just because a particular hoodrat you hassled didn't appreciate it. If your respect is authentic, you don't have to worry about being rewarded for your behavior--because you're not doing it for a reward, instead you are doing it because it's real.

    In short, don't let your screen name fool you. There was nothing real in the quote I just pulled from you. That was a fake comment from a fake perspective on how men should relate to females.
  • 123
    Very well said.
  • Forealdude
    Much of what has been said is correct, but let me fill in some blanks. Many men go through the courtship stage, but without the parents (you don't want to freak out your date, this is not the Godfather II where this was okay). When men do try to be spontaneous one of two things happen (possibly both): 1) The women gets swept away and tries to give the man her "flower" from the emotionality of the situation. Many men, including myself try to stop it from going further, and keep i t slow, but we all know Men are weak when it comes to sex. 2) The woman does not appreciate the effort, and thinks things are weird when a guy opens the door for them and then starts to complain that you should not strt off by doing this, if you ae not going to keep it up. This makes a man feel unappreciated in the situation, so once he gets the "buttcheeks" he is OUT, Who wants to deal with the stupid? Bottom line is you should try to get to know the person, in whatever way you can. Women be suggestive without being overpowering. Do you, not your girl. Everything does not work for anyone. Some people are too selfish to be in a relationship, so don"t ignore the signs that you see. We have all had the thought " This chick/dude is: crazy, corny, gold digger, jealous, unambitious. See the signs and run. Woman and men also need to realize that everybody is not marriage material to everybody. You might think you are a great catch, but to him/her you are just a 3 month fling. Know your worth
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